Immigration Debate

Jacqueline Patiño
Posted June 24, 2018 from Bolivia

 

In response to The Economist, who are leading a poll for the question: Should people be free to decide where they want to live? The NO option is winning.

I wrote the following post, which I do not know if they will show on their page because they have a moderator that chooses which entries are published! (Why does it not surprise me?) Here it goes:

 

 

I am sad when I see the world get into nonsense polls like this one while they look away from the bone of the matter.

Why ask if people should be free to decide where they live when we know that they aren't?

Governments of rich countries have always made it difficult for people to migrate there, but at the same time, they have made sure that people in poor countries receive all the goods they produce, all the trash (used goods) they produce, and all the loans for which they charge financial interest. All these resources that "must be" received by poor countries are non negotiable by any government. The imposition economically and financially is clear.

But.. the murders, the lies, and the incredibly perverse laws upon which tyrants ruling poor countries build their power on are completely overseen, forgotten and looked away from,  in the name of  "self determination of the states".

What a binge for rich countries! Don't you think? They have captive markets and make great money through imposing their ways for at least five centuries now!

But it is completely wrong for citizens suffering from these impositions to want to live, to have a taste of the first world life experiences. 

No. People in poor countries exist so that they can buy your stuff. That is all. Non negotiable. Period.

So build walls, be more racist, control your borders. Don't let nasty, ugly, bad looking foreigners migrate legally or illegally.

Sit there. Watch how the poor starve. Blame them for their own poverty. Take all the money tyrants and their families and friends or colleagues steal from the people and put it in your banks to make them richer.

Take it. Don't say a thing. Know that there is nobody who will tell you or do anything about that. I even have a better idea. Take your weapons, your bombs, your chemicals, and destroy all humanity that will not comply with your rules.

That way there will only be buyers who do not complain left. And when they leave the hell created by your conniving tyrants, throw them in jail. These bastards are coming to your rich and nice countries to eat your delicious food.

 

Here is the link. If you ever get to see my comment because the moderator let it be published, please let me know.

https://debates.economist.com/debate/immigration?csort=recommended_desc#...

 

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Tarke Edith
Jun 24, 2018
Jun 24, 2018

Hi sister Jacqueline thank you for acknowledging the problems of the poor, this problem of rich countries dominating the poor once is a call for concent l think that we as women if we can Stand against it may be it can be better thanks

Jacqueline Patiño
Jul 13, 2018
Jul 13, 2018

Hi Edith,

It is just one voice in the midst of a turmoil caused by migration. I hope to lead the way to make many voices raise at once.

Love,

Jackie

Olutosin
Jun 24, 2018
Jun 24, 2018

My sister, they have shallow minds. This is why they have crooked thoughts. I saw the survey. It's was 28% or so. I pray that one day, the so called rich countries will wake up to realize that they are so poor because their wealth can only be measured in $$$$$

We are rich in all good things of life. Can the rich remain forever in their countries? No. No man is an island.

Jacqueline Patiño
Jul 13, 2018
Jul 13, 2018

Hi Olutosin,

You are so right!
No man is an island, and no country is as powerful as we may think. People get tired of the good, the bad and the tasteless the same way in Miami or Siria, but the Sirians have very little good things.

Same thing happens in Latin American countries where tyrants have taken over governments for two decades now. Tyrants, their families and their followers are making stagering lots of money that they put in first world countries' banks, and that is one of the main reasons why there is no international intervention to overthrow these regimes, that stay in power only through big frauds.

If rich countries want people to stay home, they should not tollerate the tyrants money in their banks, because it comes from assasinations and big robberies of the people's money.

Love,
Jackie

Tamarack Verrall
Jun 27, 2018
Jun 27, 2018

Dear Jacqueline,
What you have written is so true and you have described it so clearly. These horrid twists on the truth used by governments being run by big business are repeated so often that the lies are all too often believed. Your message is what we need to undo the lies, and create governments and government policy that do justice where it is so sorely lacking. I agree with Edith that if we as women stand together with a different world economic plan we can and must create change. The voices in my country that call out for closed borders are ironically primarily white settlers who have been taught that they have a right to decide who comes, now that they are here. Moral business, truly fair trade, moral government, public education holding truth, justice and vision, and open borders all need to be developed.
In sisterhood,
Tam

Jacqueline Patiño
Jul 13, 2018
Jul 13, 2018

Hi Tam,

Thank you for thinking out of the box, as the box is really not making any sense right now!

Love,

Jackie

Beth Lacey
Jun 29, 2018
Jun 29, 2018

This is a very painful topic. I wish leaders would add some humanity into their thinking. If more women were decision makers, that would happen.
Beth

Jacqueline Patiño
Jul 13, 2018
Jul 13, 2018

Hi Beth,

In poor countries leaded by tyrants, they put women on power only if they do what they say. Women ministers even have two men behind them to correct them, to make them say and do the right thing!

How can the people in poor countries get rid of these tyrants when leaders of the first world are more interested in getting the money tyrants rob from their people in their banks than in ushering democracy openness for all countries?

Love,

Jackie

kyla
Jul 02, 2018
Jul 02, 2018

Hi Jacqueline, we definitely need more leaders in business and in government willing to make decisions to benefit all people and our planet. Thank you for having a vision that involves fairness and freedom for all.

Jacqueline Patiño
Jul 13, 2018
Jul 13, 2018

Hi Kyla,

You are so right!

Good democracies for all countries, without tyrants, without impositions, is a must if we are going to deal with migration issues the right way.

Love,

Jackie

joyce nelly
Jul 03, 2018
Jul 03, 2018

My sister thank you so very much for this write up while reading through I could see my country all in what you are saying .We are coming from the poor side of the world .This really need to be publish for all to see and read .

Jacqueline Patiño
Jul 13, 2018
Jul 13, 2018

Hi Joyce,

Yes! We need to write more pieces on this issue, as powerful nations think they are doing the right thing when they receive stolen money in their banks. Tyrants are making these banks flourish, and the powers that be are allowing them to stay in power and keep reaping off the people.

Love,

Jackie

JulieG
Jul 03, 2018
Jul 03, 2018

Dear Jacqueline,

I applaud you for taking your comments right to The Economist! I wish they would publish your opinions, but please know there are many citizens of the rich countries who agree wholeheartedly with you.

Jacqueline Patiño
Jul 13, 2018
Jul 13, 2018

Hi Julie,

Thank you for agreeing with me. Now we need to begin this conversation in the rich countries that I hold accountable for taking money in their banks that should be being used for covering people´s needs in countries ruled by tyrants. This is the first step to really cope with migration issues.

Love,

Jackie

Ndimofor Aretas
Jul 05, 2018
Jul 05, 2018

Hello Jacqueline. It takes a lot of courage to bring to light the issues you have highlighted in your write up and even posting in on a platform such as the Economist. This demonstrates how passionate you are about the challenges and the problems the poor communities have when it comes to this topic.
I hope the moderator permits your comment to be published.

Jacqueline Patiño
Jul 13, 2018
Jul 13, 2018

Hi Ndimofor,

As usual, democracy is not available in places like The Economist. My comment was not allowed, and I have not received any more information on that post.

Love,

Jackie

Tecenta Achiri
Jul 10, 2018
Jul 10, 2018

Hello Jacqueline
It takes a lot of courage to highlight some as sensitive as this.. I celebrate you my dear sister and courage

Jacqueline Patiño
Jul 13, 2018
Jul 13, 2018

Hi Tecenta,

There is such a need for us to raise our voices on this matter! Let us begin!

Love,

Jackie

Sharon Makunura
Jul 31, 2018
Jul 31, 2018

Hi Jacqueline,

Thank you for raising your voice for the poor.

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