I finally finished my draft for the 2nd assignment! I am looking forward to reading your suggestions. I am aware it deals with a very controversial topic. Please let me know if there is anything I said that can be seen as offensive, for whatever reason. Also, feel free to share your views! Curious to know what you think about that!

It was a regular weekday, that Wednesday in March, 2009. I came back from the university at noon and I was having lunch with my brothers while watching the local news on TV. I was not paying much attention to it until I was struck by that familiar name: Olimpio Barbosa de Moraes Filho – my father. My brothers and I instantly looked towards the TV to check what was actually being said. It took a while for us to finally understand what was going on. The archebishop of our city was publicly excommunicating my father – who is a doctor - and the whole medical team for performing an abortion. But that was not a common case of abortion. In the contrary, it was a very shocking and polemical case. A 9 year-old girl from the interior of my state, Pernambuco, got pregnant of twins due to sexual abuse by her step father. Carrying on the pregnancy represented an enormous risk of death to the girl, as she was not yet physically prepared for such transformations in her young body. Under Brazilian Law, abortion is a crime. However, there are a few exceptional cases in which it is legal for a doctor to perform an abortion. These cases are: 1. If there is no other way to save the pregnant woman’s life or 2. If the pregnancy is the result of rape. Both of these circumstances were present in the 9 year-old girl’s case. Therefore, my father and his team were not doing anything illegal. The archebishop argued, however, that the law of God was superior to the law of men and that abortion resulted necessarily in excommunication from the Catholic church. When asked about the girl’s step father who had raped her, the archebishop affirmed that rape was a dreadful sin, but abortion was even worse. This statement led to an astonishing amount of attention from the media and generated wide public debate, not only in my state and in my country, but also internationally, being published even in newspapers such as the New York Times. The population was compelled to debate, as the condemning position of the archaebishop was highly controversial. How could he claim to be protecting life when presenting some tolerance to the rape of an innocent child, while harshly condemning the doctors who were acting with the support of the law and trying to save the child’s life? The case raised all sorts of questions about theology, morality, the blurry line between right and wrong, the value of life, the role of religion in a laic state, gender-based and domestic violence, criminality in poor rural areas of Brazil, among various other important topics. But most and foremost, it finally made people – young and old, progressive and conservative, religious and atheists, men and women - discuss about abortion.

Brazil, a laic country - Brazilians, a Catholic people

Positioning yourself politically with regards to abortion implies dealing with very delicate and often intimate experiences and beliefs. As science currently does not offer a satisfactory answer to the question about the beginning of life, and as we still have to answer this question to regulate our conduct both morally and legally, the most accepted answer is very often the one given by religion. That is very much the case in my country. Brazil is legally a secular state since 1890. That means it has been 120 years since the state and the Catholic church have been legally separated. However, in practice, the Catholic religion has always shaped much of the public opinion. That makes sense when you consider that by the latter half of the 20th century, Brazil became the largest Catholic country in the world. According to the national census from 2000, nearly 74% of the country’s population is Catholic. This strong influence has been considered harmful by many organizations that advocate women’s rights. The condemnation by the Catholic church of the use of condoms and anticonceptionals go in the very opposite direction of what women’s rights movements defend. In the case of abortion, that is also the case, and both topics are directly related to each other.

Abortion in Brazil: a matter of public health and social justice

A research led by the NGO Ipas Brasil, in 2007, in partnership with the Institute of Social Medicine of the University of the State of Rio de Janeiro (UERJ), showed that approximately 1.054.243 abortions are performed in Brazil each year. Unsafe abortion is among the top 3 causes of avoidable death among women in my country. The same research showed the magnitude of unsafe abortions according to race/ethnicity, age and geographical location. The result is shocking, and yet, it unfortunately makes complete sense. With regards to race/ethnicity, the population of black women is three times more vulnerable to death due to unsafe abortion than the population of white women. With regards to geographical location, the annual rates of unsafe abortion are visibly higher in states from the Northern and Northeastern regions, and it becomes even more so when the adolescent population (from 10-19 years old) is the group taken into consideration. These numbers are far from being random. They lead to the very consistent conclusion that unsafe abortion victimizes mainly the social groups who are more vulnerable, excluded and less economically privileged. In Brazil, black people have been discriminated since the beginning of our national history. At first, Africans were brought to Brazil as slaves for the Portuguese colonizers. Although slavery was abolished in 1888, there were no inclusive policies put into place to make sure the ex-slaves would become participative citizens with equal access to opportunities. In practice, racism and social exclusion remained, although much progress has been done. But until the current times, a high percentage of the poor people in Brazil are black. Similarly, the Northern and Northeastern regions in Brazil are the poorest in the whole country. They present the higher rates of illiteracy, unemployment as well as the lower income rates. Taking this context into consideration, it becomes clear that the issue of abortion, far from being a topic that should be kept exclusively in the intimacy of households, is a serious matter of public health and social justice, and should therefore be widely debated.

The criminalization of abortion in Brazil: does it solve the problem?

The main argument that supports the criminalization of abortion in Brazil is that criminalizing it is a way of discouraging and repressing such a practice. However, the women’s rights movement alleges that such a measure is ineffective in avoiding women with unwanted pregnancies to have an abortion. If they do not have the economic, social and psychological conditions to carry on that pregnancy, they usually find a way to have an abortion, even if it puts their own life in risk. The Committee on Elimination of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) by the United Nations supported this argument in its 39th edition, in 2007. “What in fact happens is that the abortion is performed anyways. The difference is that wealthy women can afford a safe abortion in clean clinics – legally or not, whereas poor women, who are the majority of the feminine population in Brazil, have to perform abortions in places with little or no hygiene and with no adequate medical care, resulting in serious damage for their health.” This statement, given by Benita Spinelli, the coordinator of the sector of women’s health in the municipality of Recife, my city, indicates the evident injustice in this situation. Another argument that stands against the present abortion legislation in Brazil is the fact that it punishes only the woman. Although the man is necessarily involved in making the woman pregnant, if the pregnancy is unwanted or unfeasible, the woman is supposed to be punished, but her partner does not have any legal responsibility and is considered completely innocent. The Brazilian Criminal Code has many outdated points, as its text dates back to 1940 and the role of women in society was very different than it is today by then. Besides, the criminalization of abortion creates a threatening and psychologically violent atmosphere that makes many women present symptoms of anxiety, depression, regret and insomnia after they made the choice interrupting the pregnancy. Leila Adesse, the founder of the NGO Ipas Brasil, affirms that the penalization, stigmatization and prejudice against women in such a situation does not minimize the problem nor does it reduce the serious consequences for the health of women. “Instead of being discriminated and put in jail, these women need psychological support, medical care and a more efficient coverage of anticonceptional methods”, says Leila.

The way(s) out – my own solution-oriented perspective

The most efficient way to reduce the rates of unsafe abortions is, of course, reducing the rates of unwanted pregnancies. For that to happen, women have to be able to negotiate with their partners and engage in family planning. That demands a leveled field among men and women, an environment in which women have a voice to express their wills and their needs.

As a matter of public health and human rights, it also demands a proactive attitude from the government. The situation urges for public policies aimed at promoting education on sexual and reproductive health, human reproductive rights and contraceptive methods. Besides, it is necessary to make condoms and other contraceptive options available and accessible to the population, as much as possible. These programs should prioritize the poor, the less educated and the people living in violent and at risk communities, but should also go beyond that. It should also make sure to involve both women and men, as gender equality cannot be built by women alone. Another interesting measure that works very efficiently in some countries – but definitely not in Brazil, is the creation of orphanages that are well equipped to offer the proper conditions to the children. This way, women who do not have financial or psychological conditions to raise a kid properly would not feel compelled to interrupt their pregnancy, as their kids could be adopted by a family who could offer a much better life to them. But even in countries where all these policies were put in place effectively, they were not enough to solve the problem of unwanted pregnancy and unsafe abortion. Therefore, I believe amplifying the possibility of legal abortions (for example, stipulating it as legal until the third month of pregnancy) would eliminate many barriers to a healthy life for women, mainly those women who are socially excluded and discriminated.

Unanswered questions, difficult decisions and the importance of debate

The fact is that abortion is a contentious topic. It deals with the most serious issue of all – life. The problem is that one can be against the legalization of abortion in order to protect life. And curiously one can also be in favor of the legalization of abortion for the exact same reason. The difference, in many cases, lies in whose life you are considering the most important. And to consider some lives more important than others is undoubtedly a problematic assumption to make. The issue is made even more complex due to the lack of a precise, well accepted and universal definition about when does life really start. This unanswered question poses all sorts of challenges to the consideration of the matter. If you consider that life begins with the conception – as does the Catholic church, having an abortion would always correspond to murdering a baby – no matter what. However, if you apply more flexible criteria – for example, that life starts with the formation of the fetus’neurological system, which happens by the third month of pregnancy – as it is in the legislation of most countries in Europe, having an abortion at very early stages of the fetus’ development would not configure such a reproachable action and the lives of many women could be saved. Despite of all these doubts, questions and the frustrating lack of convincing answers, there is one thing I am certain about: unsafe abortion is a reality in Brazil. And thus, no matter how controversial this subject is, debate should not be avoided, but insistently encouraged. I remember my father saying that even though he was excommunicated, he was glad this had happened because it brought attention to the topic and it fostered debate. “I just hope all this debate will be constructive”, he completed. I believe I fully realized the importance of such a widespread debate when I caught myself talking to my grandmother about abortion. From this unlikely dialog between a strongly Catholic 70 year-old woman and an agnostic 17 year old girl, we did not reach any definitive conclusions, but we realized that we both had our reasons, who were legitimate and made sense, however different our beliefs were.

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In nepal too, the abortion has been legalized. It has been only a few years. But these doesn't make sure the good abortion there . There are problems of not meeting the abortion criteria. And i feel sad as read there is also the unsafe abortion in your country too. With the working on development , all these things are ignored. Or while making the rule all these important things have been missed out. Thank you for talking on this sensitive issue! thank you for giving this a strong voice.


Nilima from Nepal

Yes, Nilima, I completely agree with you when you say that this issue is ignored or missed out by most development strategies. I believe people tend to avoid the topic as it is highly controversial and it often ends up in a destructive - rather than a constructive - discussion.

I am sorry to hear that is also the reality in Nepal. However, in Brazil we have not legalized it - in the contrary, the punishment for the woman and/or the doctor goes from 1 to 10 years of imprisonment. I also think that legalizing abortion would not solve all the problems. But I believe it would help in many cases.

Thank you for reading and interacting! I feel glad we can talk about such polemical issues pacifically even though we come from completely different cultures.

All the best! Cheers!

Thaís Moraes

Hi Thais,

I feel so moved with your writing. You have shown me clearly about the abortion in Brazil. A little girl, 9, who raped by her step-father - I understand she got risks as she was pregnant since she was so young and your father and his team was so kind as they also knew that this abortion is not a crime because this little girl was raped so they decided to help her but the result was contrary. I am clear what the law is in your country. I feel so sad to read it!

Thanks for sharing such as wonderful article to us! Well-done, it is a great article.

Love, Sarvina

Regards, Sarvina from Cambodia VOF 2011 Correspondent

I'm glad you thought the article was clear. It was challenging for me to write about it, mainly considering that the readers would not be from Brazil, and therefore not so familiar with the reality of my country.

So thank you for your comment! Cheers!

Thaís Moraes

Thais, such is the paradox of "righteousness". Some people, particularly those who claim to be the "guardians of morality", seem to close their eyes to the real issue. Euthanasia (mercy-killing), for example, has been tolerated for reasons only those who know the pain and hopelessness of a living-dead can understand. Abortion, really, is a very sensitive issue in religion. I'm in a Catholic country, too, and right now we are hostage to the debate of the Reproductive Health Bill. It's absurd that even human rights advocates would opt to save the life of a criminal who has taken a lot of lives, than save many from being his victims. You see, that's going to change if we join hands and raise our voice in chorus - that our lives cannot be put at risk for hipocrisy to reign in the name of law and "righteousness". All the best...

Always, Emie Zozobrado

Dear Emie,

I agree. It's such a paradox and so hard to deal with. I think that is why I am always so skeptical about those who claim to be, as you said, "the guardians of morality".

I would be glad to know more about the Reproductive Health Bill in your country. How does it protect criminals instead of victims? I would love if you could clarify this a little bit more.

Thank you for your comment and support!

Thaís Moraes

Oh, it's not the Reproductive Health Bill. I was talking about "pro-life" advocates, who, in "defense" of human rights, would rather save the life of a drug addict or a serial killer who have caused the deaths of many people in the name of "preservation of life", than think about how many lives would be spared if that one criminal would be sentenced to death penalty. That's the argument that caused the abolition of death penalty in my country. I'm not saying death penalty can solve the problem of criminality anywhere. I still believe that years served in prison may change a person. But the arguments on the preservation of life should be based on the impact to the well-being of those most affected, that is, the probable results and consequences must be considered, and not just strictly bank on the doctrines of human rights or morality, like in your father's case, where abortion was necessary (and lawful at that!) to save the life of a 9-year-old. Maybe anyone can see that if she goes on with that unwanted pregnancy (as a rape victim), she's signing not only her own death warrant but the death warrants of the twins in her womb, too! As to our Reproductive Health Bill, it is still a long big battle, because, of course, the stance of the church is very strong here, particularly because we are a predominantly Catholic country like yours...

Always, Emie Zozobrado

Dear Emie,

That's very interesting. I agree with your view of my father's case.

With regards to the death penalty, I'm not sure of how it is in your country (would love to know more!), but in Brazil, I don't think it would be a good idea. It is true that many people would be saved if you condemned a serial killer to death, for instance. However, what happens in Brazil is that most people who are criminals (or at least seen as criminals) are poor people. Very often, they become criminals not because they are evil, but because they were systematically excluded from society and therefore did not have many other options. So punishing individuals with death would be almost an extermination of poor people, who would be submitted to a double exploitation. First, they were born in a hostile environment in which their rights were not guaranteed and second, they were punished for not conforming to the norms that the dominant class established for them. To properly address criminality, as well as unsafe abortion, I believe we should look for roots and causes, rather than the consequences and effects.

Do you see my point? How is it in the Phillipines? Tell me your thoughts. I'm very interested in this topic.

Looking forward to learning about your opinion!


Thaís Moraes

You are right, Thais! We need to address the roots and causes ... but, meantime, while criminality is on the rise, we also need to address it more urgently to stop it - because the consequences and results of criminality are so paralyzing.

The death penalty here has long been abolished. The way you explained the premises in Brazil regarding criminality, I think the situation in the Philippines is different - we have criminals coming from all brackets of society, rich, poor or middle class. The Ampatuans are very wealthy and powerful, that they could afford to carry out such gruesome massacre. Personally, I do believe poverty is not a reason to resort to criminality at all. Sadly, yes, destitution can breed criminals! But then, it is not much an issue of being poor but, importantly, a big deal on moral values! Anyway, we are going to change things for the better. Women are talking - and talking with sensitivity and sensibility. We are surely making a great big difference! All the best...

Always, Emie Zozobrado

Yes, we do have to address it with more urgent measures in the mean time. But I still do not believe the death penalty is the most legitimate reason for that. I believe allowing the state to kill its citizens is giving too much power to the state - yes, it should punish criminals, but within certain limits.

Now that you mentioned the Ampatuans, I got curious and gave it a little research. This excerpt is among the things I found: "Warlordism has been endemic for generations in the Philippines, from the main northern island of Luzon to Mindanao, the largely Muslim island that hosts at least three armed separatist groups. Mindanao also has freelance kidnap-for-ransom gangs and protection rackets tied to the large army and police presence."

I can see this is a very different situation than the Brazilian one.

In the case of Brazil, crime is mostly a result of lack of resources and social exclusion. I agree it is a matter of morals, but sometimes I wonder if is fair to demand morals from individuals who suffered and were exploited for their whole lives, in a situation in which the system itself is highly immoral. Therefore, I believe criminality has to be dealt with justice - that includes Law, but also a broader perspective of justice: social justice.

Yes, hopefully things are going to change. With our voices, hard work and active participation!

All the best,

Thaís Moraes

I have never been in favor of death penalty either, and I will never ever be! No one human being or institution ever has the right to take away anything he does not cause to exist! But, of course, we need to protect each other from the evils that can destroy and extinguish our race ... and these evils can come from our fellow human beings. The primacy of the preservation and protection of lives should be upheld all the time, however, the need to punish criminals can become a vicious cycle of destruction of more and more lives as crimilnality increases. Moral values play a really essential role in addressing criminality - much much more than, although important, socio-economic and poverty-reduction measures. Criminality is not an issue of lack of resources, it's an issue of morality. Now that many voices are joining us for a positive change to a better world, we are unstoppable. All the best...

Always, Emie Zozobrado

Well, I disagree about that (about morality being a more important cause for criminality than lack of resources). But I do think that this disagreement is healthy, because we both recognize that both causes are important. We just place different weights upon them and disagree about the extent to what they cause crime, not about IF they cause crime. This might be due to our different experiences in our home countries, which makes the discussion even more enriching.

Thank you for sharing your ideas! Cheers!

Thaís Moraes

Dear Thais,

Your work all good but as for me as long as the lead and nutgraph are there, i would be grateful to your piece.Here in My country its illegal to do such,people are encouraged to bare fruits of their womb.Really i wonder what is it that people think of when they legalise some things.Arbotion my sister is bad.Killing! oh no!

Any way my dear,your piece says it all,you have taken us somewhere to understand what is happening there.Thank you so much.

All the best Thais


"success will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time " And when confronted conquer with love

Dear Warona,

I agree. Abortion is a bad thing. I don't believe anyone is in favor of abortion - in the sense of encouraging the act of abortion. It is traumatic for the woman and it is the elimination of a life (or a potential life, depending on the criteria you choose for the start of life).

But I believe it is reasonable to be in favor of the legalization of abortion. To see it as a choice for the woman. For some women, in very bad conditions of living, abortion is the best (or less worse, if that exists!) option.

My argument in the article is that yes, abortion can be seen as killing. But prohibiting abortion might lead to even more killings (as it does in Brazil, mainly among poor women). So the problem is to defend life by forcing women to risk their own lives in the name of the foetu's life (and in early stages of pregnancy - for example, before the neurological system is formed - the foetu's can be seen as a potential life yet, depending on your beliefs).

Do you see my point? What do you think about that?


Thaís Moraes

Great job Thais in laying out a very strong argument on both a political, medical and legal line. This is a difficult topic to write about, because in my experience people from each side almost never cross over or change their minds.



"Tell me then, what will you do with your one wild, sweet, and precious life?" -Mary Oliver

Exactly, Rachael! I feel that way too. Most people take sides and stick to them, not being open enough to hear the valuable arguments the other side presents. That is one of the main reasons why this assignment was particularly challenging for me - because I wanted to make a point, to express my opinion clearly, but giving room for people to disagree, showing to the readers that my position is not necessarily eternal nor unchangeable and encouraging debate.

Thank you very much for the support.

All the best!

Thaís Moraes

Hello Thais,

I appreciate ypur topic. You have also addressed it logically. It is really a difficult topic to discuss especially as it regards religious rules. As a Catholic, I know that the Church attach much value to life than any other thing. I will agree with you that there are so many issues in the church that should be look into especially the issue of condom use. Abortion, when dissussed in th church usually arise to a lot of argument that never brings agreement. But like u rightly said, I hope all debate becomes constructive. Well written


''Every woman have a story at every stage of Life''

Yes, I totally agree. And I think defending sex only between spouses and for the sole purpose of procreation is not realistic nowadays, and it has not been for a long time. So, it is true that the Church attaches value to life more than any other thing, but I personally believe they are not choosing the most efficient ways to protect life.

It did not fit in the article, but that was the second time my father was excommunicated. The first one was when he and his team supported a municipal policy to make contraceptive methods - such as the next day pill - available for free during Carnival. (In Brazil, carnival is the period of the year with the highest rates of unwanted pregnancies). It did not catch much attention from the media, but I think it is equally important. Making contraceptive methods accessible and available is key for guaranteeing the freedom of women.

With regards to abortion, I agree. It is a touchy subject that arises a lot of argument but never brings agreement. The challenge is thus to encourage people to keep debating - many give up and stick to their own positions, in a stubborn way, because they think the debate will not take them anywhere. Let's hope that the debate keeps going. And in a constructive way.


Thaís Moraes

Hello Thais,

Yes i here you,you say this favours the ligalisation of arbortion,Do you know that in China a family have been restricted to a certain number of childen.This is very important Thais,a woman ' s health.Woman empowerment can save us from having poverty striken mothers who will be easily driven into making unnecessary children ignoring the advice from health workers about family planning.

So in order to deal with this do we have to give up and have the fear that once its prohibited more killings will come, oh no Thais.We better call a spade a spade,truth be told,thats why women are empowered across the globe,if it takes them to be guilty those who unplant their foetus calamities will befall.Things must be done orderly and in God s way,we are all human beings created by God.If then we can try and invent our own short cut laws to try and relief ourselves conditions that befall us than i can say life is vanity of vanities.i mean its meaninless to live.

Well in my community such uncidents do happen behind doors.Just close to my place,one girl arboted,she threw the thing on a rubble,soon dogs came for the smell,and everyone was alarmed.We left our food and all our chores to behold that.You know everyone shrinked at the sight of that innocent blood.The police came with a coffin,they took it for proper burrial.As you can see it shows, that is a human being who deserves a right to life.

Why would people indulge themselves in unprotected sex well knowing that raising a child would be a problem to them.So as voices of our future lets wherever we are raise our voices to help our communities live healthy lives.My dear Thais am not critisizing you,am just responding may be it might have a meaning why.I know if you find this positive, it might take you all the days of your life to change the whole set because what is wrong thats what people enjoys or look for.Sorry am not trying to disturb your piece its all powerful dear.

I love you so much Thais,i wish you all the best,

Love from


"success will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time " And when confronted conquer with love

Thank you for taking on such a controversial subject. You have presented your arguments with a very even hand, while taking a clear position. I agree with all of your perspectives. Abortion is still a hotly debated topic in the United States. What should be debated are the social circumstances that place so many women in critically vulnerable situations; poverty, violence, sexual abuse, lack of voice (and choice). You have done a wonderful job of exposing those circumstances. Thank you for your courage in addressing this issue with well reasoned arguments...and more importantly, empathy for women forced by circumstances to make difficult, perhaps life threatening, decisions.

"What should be debated are the social circumstances that place so many women in critically vulnerable situations; poverty, violence, sexual abuse, lack of voice (and choice)" - I couldn't agree more with that. That's exactly what I think.

Thank you very much for your support, Potter. Your comment was very encouraging!


Thaís Moraes

Hi there,

Thank you for swinging by my journal and giving me a heads up about this very well written piece. You argued this issue from all perspectives and kept objectivity foremost- the signs of a good investigator! I think the situation you describe is the same in Zimbabwe. Abortion is illegal and yet it still happens.

You are very right about family planning's role in preventing unwanted pregnancy in the first place but I dare say that the situation is complicated - what if the man sabotages the use of condoms because he wants his woman to get pregnant; what if she forgets to take her pills? What if she's raped? So many dimensions.

I wrote about abortion too last year and I would appreciate you reading my piece at: http://fungaineni.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/the-abortion-debate/

This paragraph you wrote is so so powerful: "The problem is that one can be against the legalization of abortion in order to protect life. And curiously one can also be in favor of the legalization of abortion for the exact same reason. The difference, in many cases, lies in whose life you are considering the most important. And to consider some lives more important than others is undoubtedly a problematic assumption to make."

You did this topic justice!

from today i live out of my imagination i am more than my yesterday tomorrow i plant a new seed nothing that lies behind easy nothing that is ahead real my within is all i have today Napo Masheane

wow, once again, I'm impressed by your piece on abortion. I agree 100% with the points you have made in the text. Also, you have used many examples experienced by people who are close to you, so it gives the reader a very comprehensive portrait of the reality of abortion in Zimbabwe.

"Culture is the cohesive glue that binds communities together, but for many women, it is the hangman’s noose on which their freedoms are choked." - I found this excerpt especially powerful.

I also agree with the point you have made on your comment above about the insufficiency of contraceptives. That is why I defended in the article that it was essential, but not enough. I particularly think we should fight for the legalization of abortion (maybe not complete, but at least until the 3rd month of pregnancy).

Thank you very much for your support! I am really looking forward to exchanging more ideas with you! All the best!

Thaís Moraes

Dear Thais, Abortion is a very sensitive subject when it is approach on a religion views.

I don't stand for abortion but as I always say, I will never force a woman who have been rapped to keep a pregnancy that will always remind her the trauma. Men are not raped but the rapers so they don't know what it means for a woman and how she can feel for the rest of her life. We all have our stands but I never understand and don't like when we use the bible or any religion as cover to defend such a wicked act.

Believing in God doesn't mean we don't think any more ar do not know what is good, better, and perfect because even the bible calls us to no and do that.

Thanks for reminding us of abortion and people perception.

Trust your HOPES, not your fears... Harmony

I agree. Believing in God should not stop anyone from analyzing what is good/bad and why, adopting different perspectives.

Thank you for sharing your opinion. It's very interesting!


Thaís Moraes